tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post7135702943780859646..comments2023-11-02T00:51:25.494-07:00Comments on Shattered World : A Worse World War: Bobbyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08707410788628607465noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-68356552576120340182008-10-27T18:52:00.000-07:002008-10-27T18:52:00.000-07:00-- The U.S. is not bombing Germany itself because ...-- The U.S. is not bombing Germany itself because German air defenses are too strong, the risk of having an atomic bomber shot down is too great. Britain IS bombing northwest Germany, including Hamburg, but again its still too risky to send atomic bombers against those air defenses. <BR/> Spain is the "soft underbelly" of Axis western Europe, its gained U.S. attention in a manner similar to Italy in OTL. <BR/><BR/>-- umm, the U.S. HAS been nuking Tokyo and Japanese industrial cities. Its all there in previous segments. The thing is that a-bombs are not really war winners if the other side is willing to accept fighting despite them. They are roughly equivalent to a 1000 heavy bomber raid in terms of raw firepower and destructive potential. In OTL, the Japanese only surrendered after the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki because they had no allies left, they'd already been hammered ceaselessly with conventional raids, and the Emperor stepped in to save his people. The military wanted to fight on and in fact they almost did exactly that.<BR/> In the Shattered World timeline Japan still has powerful allies and the Emperor has become a figurehead after the military essentially put him under house arrest. So, the military gets to fight on to the end as they wanted to do in OTL.<BR/><BR/>It sounds like you may not have read the entire timeline, keep in mind that events have been diverging from our world since the early 1930's. <BR/><BR/>BobbyBobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08707410788628607465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-61884601788523355172008-10-27T18:14:00.000-07:002008-10-27T18:14:00.000-07:00OK, why have the Allies been bombing a. Spain and ...OK, why have the Allies been bombing <BR/>a. Spain and not nuke Berlin, Hamburg, Dresden and end the war in a week<BR/>b. Okinawa and the like and taking horrendous infantry casualties when they could nuke Tokyo and the port/industrial cities and end the war the same weeekReed and Elaine's Travel Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06743399326405092907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-26346715286268289142008-08-07T16:10:00.000-07:002008-08-07T16:10:00.000-07:00I'm thinking their hatred for the Americans, and w...I'm thinking their hatred for the Americans, and willingness to resist them to the death, is coming from a combination of Japanese propaganda plus American nuclear and conventional bombing which is destroying their home island.Bobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08707410788628607465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-35034553984723688102008-08-03T20:53:00.000-07:002008-08-03T20:53:00.000-07:00How's the next segment coming?How's the next segment coming?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-12803523627851887172008-07-30T19:12:00.000-07:002008-07-30T19:12:00.000-07:00Hmmm, first time post, but I'm a touch curious. T...Hmmm, first time post, but I'm a touch curious. The Battle of Okinawa's looking pretty nasty like OTL, but I'm a little surprised that the Okinawan civilians are getting so involved against the Amis. I mean, they were pretty badly treated by the Japanese as well, what with the food confiscations, mass executions, forced impressment into the military (which in turn made up a large fraction of the surrendering POWs taken in OTL), many instances of rape, and forcing civilians to act as human shields or into suicide. A lot of the Okinawan natives, as opposed to the Japanese settlers, had little love for the IJA, and preferred to keep their heads down rather than look up into the crossfire.<BR/><BR/>Of course, that's not to say that they didn't go after Amis as well; there's a pretty nasty anecdote I recall about a couple of GIs getting ambushed and brutally killed by all of the men from a village where they repeatedly raped some women, and there was a lot of propaganda hashed around by the Japanese that was believed quite strongly, even excluding those civilians that, as I mentioned above, were impressed into the army and forced to fight. I'm simply a bit curious about the other side of the story, Okinawans who still remembered the days of independence (few and far between, given that it was in 1879), or who disliked the Meiji policy of assimilation, or who just wanted the IJA out as fast as possible. For that matter, Okinawans even helped the Amis find Japanese soldiers masquerading as civilians or Okinawan POWs by the simple expedient of giving orders to the suspected individuals in Okinawan rather than Japanese - the two languages are quite different. Just curious why the effective "shoot on sight" order even began this late in the battle if this kind of help probably would have existed before, given how long the battle's been raging. <BR/><BR/>-MeltemiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-59285106077014852922008-07-16T10:20:00.000-07:002008-07-16T10:20:00.000-07:00Olefin here - hope we get a new update soon - susp...Olefin here - hope we get a new update soon - suspense is killing me - do the Germans finally get to really give the knockout blow to the Russians in the South as they have in the North (with the Minsk pocket gone basically all they have left in the North are defensive stands around Moscow and Leningrad), will Chile turn fascist and thus remove a vulnerable flank for the SAFB, how long can the Spanish take the pounding from the air and will London and other areas in England finally see some revenge as Hitler has promised for Cadiz?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-26386120296495061722008-07-11T18:34:00.000-07:002008-07-11T18:34:00.000-07:00Dont get me wrong, I COMPLETELY understand it take...Dont get me wrong, I COMPLETELY understand it takes time to do this, and i don't want the quality to suffer. However, bobby, you do great work, as you can tell by how many of us are still around! If you want to take another shot at the donations, please post the link again so I can pitch in. Thanks.<BR/><BR/>SWFCaneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-89413400051054031082008-07-11T08:42:00.000-07:002008-07-11T08:42:00.000-07:00I have to apologize for the slow rate of postings,...I have to apologize for the slow rate of postings, especially considering how short the latest segments are. But I'd prefer to have longer times between posts rather than compromise on the quality of the postings.<BR/> I have the next segment mostly done in a very raw form, but for me the polishing process tends to take as long as the initial writing. I back fill a lot of research on place names and whatnot, and do a lot of editing on grammar and such. Its just to raw to post before going through the polishing process.Bobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08707410788628607465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-78965964275272028512008-07-09T20:07:00.000-07:002008-07-09T20:07:00.000-07:00yeah, lets take another shot at the donations... J...yeah, lets take another shot at the donations... Just don't make it $50.00 for a small update... If you want to keep doing the small installments, I'd say we ought to get one every time $25.00 is donated... I know you have other things on your plate bobby, but the updates are starting to get further and further apart... I think it would help if there were some type of rhyme or reason to when we get new updates... <BR/><BR/><BR/>SWFCaneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-52186394609174310102008-07-09T03:04:00.000-07:002008-07-09T03:04:00.000-07:00and how about publishing? Bet that some readers wo...and how about publishing? Bet that some readers would be glad to help editing beforehand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-84849635909154546662008-07-09T03:02:00.000-07:002008-07-09T03:02:00.000-07:00- ups - slavour labour: slave labour- ups - slavour labour: slave labourAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-8099136370976780822008-07-09T03:01:00.000-07:002008-07-09T03:01:00.000-07:00Matias here,Remember that Germany makes extensive ...Matias here,<BR/><BR/>Remember that Germany makes extensive use of slabour labour and has a nearly endless supply of it. This frees up german manpower for the frontlines - an advantage the alliance does not possess.<BR/><BR/>Bobby: I think you should try to open up for donations again. The update-to-cash-received ratio might not work but it seems that many massively update hungry readers are willing to post cash into the project. Certainly I would pay up despite being a poor student if that was the only way I could read updates - hint ;)<BR/><BR/>-massively hungrily eagerly expecting a new updateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-17238617690896523032008-07-08T06:26:00.000-07:002008-07-08T06:26:00.000-07:00Olefin hereGermany and Italy's industrial output i...Olefin here<BR/><BR/>Germany and Italy's industrial output is a lot higher here in ATL - and remember that there was a three year break in the fighting that allowed the Germans to build up their industry and recoup some of their losses.<BR/><BR/>And the US still has to fight on two fronts as long as Japan stays alive - and the US and Britain wont be having a monopoly on nukes for much longer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-48035548205767663642008-07-07T20:58:00.000-07:002008-07-07T20:58:00.000-07:00UPDATE PLEASE!!!! Its JULY 7th and some of us REAL...UPDATE PLEASE!!!! Its JULY 7th and some of us REALLY need our fix!!! :)<BR/><BR/>SWFCaneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-35938721764751877432008-07-05T20:52:00.000-07:002008-07-05T20:52:00.000-07:00I actually like the shorter segments compared with...I actually like the shorter segments compared with the long ones. Easier to focus on this or that aspect of the campaigns.<BR/><BR/>I can't believe *anyone* is still fighting given how many people have died, especially in Germany and Russia.<BR/><BR/>I think it would be good to assume that the US's massive industrial complext is even bigger now and more robust, we should start to see it's advantage, especially in Europe as the US takes the fight to the German heartland, nukes and all.<BR/><BR/>DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-69844484114750150532008-06-25T15:07:00.000-07:002008-06-25T15:07:00.000-07:00Bobby any idea on when we can expect an update?Ole...Bobby any idea on when we can expect an update?<BR/>OlefinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-42943371679617327092008-06-13T14:33:00.000-07:002008-06-13T14:33:00.000-07:00Ok. Greatly looking forward to it!Ok. Greatly looking forward to it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-28333312335470859742008-06-12T11:43:00.000-07:002008-06-12T11:43:00.000-07:00Hi, thanksI'll be out of town this weekend, so I'l...Hi, thanks<BR/><BR/>I'll be out of town this weekend, so I'll be aiming to complete the next segment by the weekend of June 21st. <BR/>It will probably be another short segmentBobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08707410788628607465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-88515637597719296762008-06-12T09:55:00.000-07:002008-06-12T09:55:00.000-07:00Hi Bobby, i'm an avid reader of shatteredworld and...Hi Bobby, i'm an avid reader of shatteredworld and find myself stopping by several times a day to check for an update.. can you please give a hint as to when we might expect the next one? Thanks.<BR/><BR/>MatiasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-77413865449722437902008-05-25T15:52:00.000-07:002008-05-25T15:52:00.000-07:00Are there no nations in Latin America safe from th...Are there no nations in Latin America safe from the threat of destabilization and fascist takeover? Oh well, at least Brazil holds strong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-67092228491106357302008-05-24T17:34:00.000-07:002008-05-24T17:34:00.000-07:00The update is great as usual, Bobby!Can you give u...The update is great as usual, Bobby!<BR/>Can you give us an idea of how are the casualties on both sides in the Caucasus?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-55732606583588042812008-05-24T15:24:00.000-07:002008-05-24T15:24:00.000-07:00Great update, Bobby :)Hah, wrote on the 22nd that ...Great update, Bobby :)<BR/>Hah, wrote on the 22nd that we need that update, and voila, the very same day we got it :D<BR/><BR/>Too bad it's a bit short, but hey, better short, yet more frequent updates :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-3006416607990457622008-05-23T11:59:00.000-07:002008-05-23T11:59:00.000-07:00Olefin here Any chance of an updated map once the ...Olefin here <BR/><BR/>Any chance of an updated map once the offensives in Russia peter out?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-39511315099180557162008-05-23T05:42:00.000-07:002008-05-23T05:42:00.000-07:00Another great update, thanks Bobby.Another great update, thanks Bobby.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2935524795017491645.post-27224335490955899102008-05-22T21:53:00.000-07:002008-05-22T21:53:00.000-07:00Olefin here Bobby you may be too optimistic on how...Olefin here <BR/><BR/>Bobby you may be too optimistic on how fast the US can catch up with the rockets. I used to work on the Shuttle and got to know a lot of people at NASA - when I was there the last of the old hands from the 50's were retiring. The US depended very heavily on the German rocket designers they got after WWII and on captured V-2's to get their own rocket program moving. Without that expertise you just dont create stuff out of thin air. <BR/><BR/>I would say they would need till early to mid 51 to catch up - the US put a lot of resources into rockets in the 50's and an awful lot of them didnt work very well until after several years of design and development - and that was with the Germans working with them, not against them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com